These worked well and look great. I would buy them again.I used them in 4 x 4 wooden posts. I drilled a 5/16" hole all the way through the post. I then drilled into the same hole with a larger bit going about half way into the post for the head side of the swage. This left the side that the cable comes out neat and clean and barely larger than the cable.When I cut the cable, I held it up along side the post. I cut the cable so it would go half way through the post. after I crimped the end on the cable, it was the perfect length and tightened up nicely. It might have worked slightly better if I had put a little lubricant on the threads.