first, this is the C3 lathe basic design thats sold under many names and several small sizes, base 80mm flange spindle ... what differs mainly among them is the level they are prepped and finished off before sale .. for 5-600$ you will get raw machined parts slapped together as quickly as possible ..its an awesome bargain for the financially challenged, but hours and hours of fitting, polishing, adjusting, etc ... what they give you is designed in a way the average guy thats mechanically well seasoned can produce a very nice little machine with basic supplies and tools, and tons of elbow grease .. it will be a project if you want it right .. if that turns you off then get a 3k$ grizzly, same thing, they just did most of the work for you ..